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[BBB]Thor
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"vandrings fåglar"

Inlägg av [BBB]Thor » 28 september 2004, 23:34

Någon som har hört talas om "vandrings fåglar" (skall vara på tyska men kan dock inte tyska :)

Enl en källa så skall detta vara ett antal tyskar som reste runt i framförallt södra Sverige inann kriget. Sverige var glada för dessa turister men kom sedan på att de var här och ritade kartor ( såsom polackerna som sa att det målade tavlor fast under kalla kriget )
och hade annat fuffens för sig här men då var det ju försent *ler*

Någon som vet något mera om detta (inkl polackerna).??

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Inlägg av Gerle » 29 september 2004, 01:29

Klippt: "We would do well to examine the example of the Wandervögel, a youth movement that arose in Germany during the first three decades of the 20th Century. Peter Staudenmaier, co-author of the paper “Ecofascism: Lessons From The German Experience,” characterises this movement as, “a hodge-podge of counter cultural elements, blending neo-Romanticism, Eastern philo-sophies, nature mysticism, hostility to reason, and a…search for authentic, non-alienated social relations. Their back-to-the-land emphasis spurred a passionate sensitivity to the natural world and the damage it suffered. Although some sectors of the movement gravitated towards various forms of emancipatory politics, most of the Wandervögel were eventually absorbed by the Nazis.” " från http://www.risingtide.nl/greenpepper/en ... acism.html

se också http://www.socialfiction.org/constrained.html The Wandervögel were a youth movement without a central organization and without leaders other then charismatic personalities who were delegated command over the group by the group. In the pedagogue Gustav Wyneken the movement found it's main spokesperson. In 1913 Wyneken proclaimed the ideas behind the Wandervögel by stating that the youth had the right to live according to their own ideas, outside the rules of society in which there were born involuntarily. Bored with the industrial artificiality of urban life, disgusted by the hypocrisy of life they fled into wild nature. they drifted for days, sometimes weeks on end through the woods. They lived on the food nature provided, in the evening the partook in excessive community singing around bonfires. The nights were dedicated to the first detours in the field of sexuality. Youth psycho-navigating through forests without parental supervision was shocking enough by itself, that these groups contained both sexes was a outright provocation against Prussian prudery. These 'entartete' walks promised more moral disintegration than most adults thought society should tolerate. But the Wandervögel were no activists, with the rise of the NSDAP some people hoped that they would adopt a more political stance but they refused to talk politics beyond their own personal freedom. The movement was eventually dissolved by the Nazi's in 1934.

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Inlägg av [BBB]Thor » 29 september 2004, 14:10

Hmm.....

Verkar ju inte som om det skulle vara dessa personer som var och rekade i Sverige.

Tack för länken det dödade ju påståendet att det var "vandringsfåglar" som var här.

Ngn som har ngn historia om personer som rörde sig i Sverige för kartläggning inann kriget. Det var ju bla ngn incident vid Mölndals stridsledningscentral med några polacker som sades reka vägen dit i händelse av krig.

MVH/ Patrik

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