Messenger skrev:Till Grond: Tacksam för ditt intressanta inlägg, jag håller med dig helt och hållet! Av de Kroater jag har sett så ser de flesta ut som vilka europeér som helst. En del av dem skulle man t om kunna missta för Svenskar!
Men visst sedan finns det ju invandrare där med som "blivit" Kroater och som ser annorlunda ut.
Till Wien: he he jag har nog inte heller sett en Italienare med en sådan snok om jag tänker efter, jag känner inte igen den typen av människa någonstans i europa faktiskt.
Löwenhamn: Hur kommer det sig att du kan så mycket om Kroatien? Du verkar vara mycket kunning på detta ämne
Jag är tacksam för all information jag kan få om Kroaterna under WWII. Tycker det är oerhört facinerande att läsa om dessa anonyma men duktiga krigare som verkar ha slagits med hjärtat inte bara för sitt eget folk men även det österrikiska och tyska folket.
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Nöjet är helt på min sida, Messenger!
Här är en text som beskriver ideologin bakom Ustasarörelsen.
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Ustasa Priciples
On June 1st 1933, Dr Ante Pavelic declared the Principles of the Ustasa
Movement, on which the movement based its work and stuggle for the
liberation of the Croatian people and the creation of the Independant
State of Croatia. The Principles spoke only about matters of a general
nature, because it was felt that in a liberated homeland the Croatian
people themselves, as the only bearers of sovereignty, would decide all
the details.
Some of the important priciples are :
The first Article affirms that the Croatian people is an independant
national unit which "in ethnic meaning is identical with no other
people and is neither a part nor a tribe of other people".
It affirms that that Croatian people possessed their original historic
name Croat before their arrival 1400 years ago in the country where they
live today (Article 2), and that they gave to this country, which they
permanently inhabited, the original and natural name Croatia (Article 3).
Consequently the name Croat and the name Croatia must not and cannot be
changed to any other name.
Article 4 asserts that the Croatian territory extends over many provinces
which bear their special provincial names, but together they form a single
Croatian Homeland and nobody has the right to usurp any of these provinces.
Articles 5 and 6 say that the Croatian people came into their present
Homeland Croatia free and organized, and immediately after arriving they
established a State of their own.
Article 7 emphasises that the Croatian people preserved their statehood
till the end of the First World War (1918) and never with any deed or legal
decision renounced their right to it or transferred this right to anybody
else : "By the end of the First World War foreign violence prevented the
Croatian people from exercising their sovereign rights in their own State
of Croatia".
Article 8 reads : "The Croatian people have the right to realize their
sovereign power in their entire ethnic and historic territory, i.e. to
re-establish their completely Independant State of Croatia. They are
entitled to carry this out by all means and even by force of arms".
Article 9 says that the Croatian people as a whole, and every Croat as its
member, have the right to happiness and well-being and that this can only
be realised in "a completely Independant State of Croatia which must not
amd cannot be, in any form, an integral part of any other State, or any
State structure".
Article 10 says "the Croatian people have their sovereign right which
only they have to rule in their State and direct all their State and
National affairs".
Article 11 emphasises that in national and State affairs in Croatia "nobody
who is not by birth and blood a member of the Croatian people can make
any decisions", and so in the same way "no foreign people or State".
In Article 12 we read "the peasants (seljaci) are not only the basis and
source of all life, but they form in themselves the Croatian people and
as such are bearers and executors of the entire State power in the Croatian
State. In addition, all other classes of the Croatian people belong to
the same national unit, since the rest of the social classes of the
Croatian people, whose members are of Croatian blood, have not only
their roots and origin in peasantry, but also a lasting connection
with the village...".
Article 13 puts as a social-economic principle that all the material
and spiritual treasures in the State are the property of the Croatian
people. The natural wealth, such as the forests and ores cannot be an
object of private enterprise. "The land can be the property only of one
who cultivates it with his family, i.e. of the peasant".
Article 14 asserts that work is the foundation of every value and marks
the quality of every individual and represents the basis of the entire
national wealth. Nobody can have any separate rights becase "the root of
any right is duty".
Article 15 emphasies that carrying out of public functions is bound up
with responsibility. Anybody who, in the name of the people, or of the
State, carries out public affairs, is responsible for all his deeds
and failures. Duty and responsiblity towards the whole are the fundamentals
of all actions in private life.
Article 16 reads "this root of moral strength of the Croatian people
is in an orderly and religious family life; of their economic strength
in peasant economy, i/e. Co-operatives (Zadruga) and natural wealth
of the Croatian earth. Defensive strength lies in organized and
tested military virtues. The educational and cultural progress of the
Croatian people is based on the natural national endowment and tested
ability in the field of science and education. Industry, trade,
handicraft and commerce have to become a helping hand in the entire
economy of the peasants and of the nation in general. These
branches of activity have to be the ground for honourable work and
the source of a worthy life for the worker and not the instruments
for the accumulation of the national; property in the hands of a few".
Finally, the last (17th) article, emphasizes that only the harmonious
cultivation and perfection of national virtues and activities, those
of public and State authorities give a guarantee for the existence
and well being of present and future generations and for the security
of the Independant State of Croatia.
This article of the Ustasa Principles ends as follows : "On these
principles the Croatian Ustasa Movement bases its work and fight,
marching openly and courageously forward towards the aim, i.e.
towards the complete liberation of the Croatian people and towards the
re-establishing of the Independant State of Croatia".