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lampros skrev:[...] de första utkasten till Ringtrilogin skapades i smutsiga skyddsrum under pågående bombardemang...

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lampros skrev:[...] de första utkasten till Ringtrilogin skapades i smutsiga skyddsrum under pågående bombardemang...

Unlike so many of his contemporaries, Tolkien did not rush to join up immediately on the outbreak of war, but returned to Oxford, where he worked hard and finally achieved a first-class degree in June 1915. At this time he was also working on various poetic attempts, and on his invented languages, especially one that he came to call Qenya [sic], which was heavily influenced by Finnish - but he still felt the lack of a connecting thread to bring his vivid but disparate imaginings together. Tolkien finally enlisted as a second lieutenant in the Lancashire Fusiliers whilst working on ideas of Earendel [sic] the Mariner, who became a star, and his journeyings. For many months Tolkien was kept in boring suspense in England, mainly in Staffordshire. Finally it appeared that he must soon embark for France, and he and Edith married in Warwick on 22 March 1916.
Eventually he was indeed sent to active duty on the Western Front, just in time for the Somme offensive. After four months in and out of the trenches, he succumbed to "trench fever", a form of typhus-like infection common in the insanitary conditions, and in early November was sent back to England, where he spent the next month in hospital in Birmingham. By Christmas he had recovered sufficiently to stay with Edith at Great Haywood in Staffordshire.
During these last few months, all but one of his close friends of the "T. C. B. S." had been killed in action. Partly as an act of piety to their memory, but also stirred by reaction against his war experiences, he had already begun to put his stories into shape, . . .. in huts full of blasphemy and smut, or by candle light in bell-tents, even some down in dugouts under shell fire [ Letters 66]. This ordering of his imagination developed into the Book of Lost Tales (not published in his lifetime), in which most of the major stories of the Silmarillion appear in their first form: tales of the Elves and the "Gnomes", (i. e. Deep Elves, the later Noldor), with their languages Qenya and Goldogrin. Here are found the first recorded versions of the wars against Morgoth, the siege and fall of Gondolin and Nargothrond, and the tales of Túrin and of Beren and Lúthien.

lampros skrev:Härmed ett citat, den bärande biten om "skrivande i skyddsrum vid fronten" kommer i sista stycket [...]
That's all spoof. You might scribble something on the back of an envelope and shove it in your back pocket, but that's all. You couldn't write. This [his study] would be an enormous dugout. You'd be crouching down among the flies and filth.
http://www.nytimes.com/1967/01/15/books/tolkien-interview.html

lampros skrev:Vad jag menar är att texter av kröniketyp, typ de Tolkien byggde Silmarillion av, är del av den myt som ligger till grund för ringtrilogin. De spelar ju i samma värld så att säga.
lampros skrev:Härmed ett citat, den bärande biten om "skrivande i skyddsrum vid fronten" kommer i sista stycket


Superkuf skrev:Tolkien hade redan före 1914 börjat skriva historier/dikter som såhär i efterhand kan rekonstrueras som väldigt proto-Silmarillion/Middle Earth. En upptäcksresande når alvernas stad, men upptäcker att alverna själva stuckit -

lampros skrev:Fascinerande - en tidig Tolkienstory, utan all den överbyggnad och mytologi han sedan skapade. Allt detta senare gods är så klart klassiker, men det är också intressant att se på de första, stapplande stegen.

Superkuf skrev:Det är också intressant att se hur det ämne han studerade, filiogi, helt ändrade inriktning under hans livstid. På 1910-talet var det snarare socialantropologi - massor av kultur, myter och litteratur, för att senare omvandlas till mer renodlat "så utvecklas språk".

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